What happens when left alone with my thoughts

Dew

A broken balance

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What happens when left alone with my thoughts Nov 8, 2014 13:51:44 GMT -5

Post by Dew on Nov 8, 2014 13:51:44 GMT -5

So, I'll just put the main question up top, and my musings below. Are shinigami purifying hollows the hard way?

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This question came to me while I was dealing with some fire wood that my father ordered some time yesterday. I was listening to some j-rock for white noise, and my thoughts turned towards bleach. Specifically, the shinigami.

Now, the shinigami have, technically, two jobs. Maintain the balance of souls, and pass on souls that ot stuck in the human world. This includes both plusses and hollows. This second job is done through the use of a zanpakutou, a soul cutting sword. It can either be done by 1) slicing and killing the soul with the sword, commonly seen with hollows or 2) stamping the soul in the head with the pommel of the sword, commonly seen with plusses.

However, there are no rules as far as I can tell stating one method must be used specifically for one type of trapped soul. Nor is there any mention of consent being required. If the soul truly wanted to pass on, it would already be in rukongai.

So if you don't need consent and (presumably) either method works, why spend the time and energy actually fighting hollows? If shinigami were trained with a focus on speed, they could zip up, stamp the hollow, and be done with it with much less collateral damage than taking the time to slice the damn things to ribbons.

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Discuss if you like. And no blaming kubo. We all know he's thick, so that's just a cop out.

Also, I'll probably occasionally post more random questions like the above or snippets of poetry. Poetry can come on request, or just randomly when something cool or noteworthy happens in my life. Like a house catching fire in the subdivision next to mine.

Even crowned with burning gold

No longer still shall house grow old

It's time is done, it's life is spent

I do hope no one was paying rent.

Arthur

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What happens when left alone with my thoughts Nov 8, 2014 14:17:56 GMT -5

Post by Arthur on Nov 8, 2014 14:17:56 GMT -5

I have a feeling that Konso only works on souls that haven't been Hollowfied.

The reason why would be simple; the Konso eases the burdens on their heart and sends them to the SS in peace (we've never seen a soul konso'd that wasn't happy about it), essentially washing away the attachments and "clearing the blockage", if you will.

With a Hollow, those burdens have literally torn their soul in two, something that cannot be fixed by simply washing away the pain (they have, in essence, EMBRACED the pain and become one with it one some level); rather, the pain must be forcibly cut away, and those the soul "purified" of the hurt that caused the break, allowing it to pass on.

This was fun.

Should do again sometime.

The Girl...
... And Her Toys
"Yumi's Speech"
Yumi's thoughts

Yamane Kokoro

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What happens when left alone with my thoughts Nov 8, 2014 14:19:08 GMT -5

Post by Yamane Kokoro on Nov 8, 2014 14:19:08 GMT -5

Slashing a hollow in half with a zanpaktou is the same process as konso. Your destroying the taint that comes from refusing to give up earthly desires. Its just a lot less violent when they are ghosts. Because they haven't been *completely* consumed by their "sin" (using the eastern word here of sin to mean 'anything that keeps you from becoming enlightened').

lev Impostor. 786 Posts Reiatsu150 Defense35 Strength35 Speed20 Spirit60 ApplicationThis character had been compromised ThreadsAll fake.	What happens when left alone with my thoughts Nov 9, 2014 1:03:39 GMT -5 Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by lev on Nov 9, 2014 1:03:39 GMT -5 Technically it wouldn't have been easy to stamp the pommel on the hollow's forehead either. :x /totally not being contributive to this discussion/
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Garra Desalmados 6,821 Posts	What happens when left alone with my thoughts Nov 9, 2014 4:37:27 GMT -5 Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by Garra Desalmados on Nov 9, 2014 4:37:27 GMT -5 Soul Society just needs to invest in orbital satelites that shoot zanpakuto at spirits it detects and Hollows it notices.

CLiX 325 Posts	What happens when left alone with my thoughts Nov 9, 2014 5:53:56 GMT -5 Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by CLiX on Nov 9, 2014 5:53:56 GMT -5 Sworbital Strike Satellite

Takumi Nakashima

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What happens when left alone with my thoughts Nov 9, 2014 19:25:21 GMT -5

Post by Takumi Nakashima on Nov 9, 2014 19:25:21 GMT -5

Soul Society just needs to invest in orbital satelites that shoot zanpakuto at spirits it detects and Hollows it notices.

Or a giant Zanpakuto rock revolving around the Earth that crashes into it if too many souls are on Earth.

Lissandra 97 Posts	What happens when left alone with my thoughts Nov 9, 2014 19:43:55 GMT -5 Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by Lissandra on Nov 9, 2014 19:43:55 GMT -5 Or a giant Zanpakuto rock revolving around the Earth that crashes into it if too many souls are on Earth. Sounds like it'd create many souls too I like it.

Kireon Bye Felicia~ 4,761 Posts	What happens when left alone with my thoughts Nov 9, 2014 21:38:34 GMT -5 Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by Kireon on Nov 9, 2014 21:38:34 GMT -5 Soul Society just needs to invest in orbital satelites that shoot zanpakuto at spirits it detects and Hollows it notices. ...on the next episode of "What the fuck is 4th Division doing..."

Fulfillment

Transcendent It is not in the pursuit of happiness that we find fulfillment, it is in the happiness of pursuit.

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What happens when left alone with my thoughts Nov 9, 2014 21:46:10 GMT -5

Post by Fulfillment on Nov 9, 2014 21:46:10 GMT -5

I think I should start a vote to see how many people are in favor of the Second taking over the Fourth.

Hey, if the Sixth can do it, so can't I~~

And you hooligans need some order imposed in there. I don't even want to imagine your budget meetings. How do you think we can afford this "satellite" technology with our wartime budget? It's time to institute strict filing systems. Don't worry, I'm an expert at this stuff, it'll be a painless and easy transition. All you have to do is file everything correctly or lose a hand. Soon enough you'll either be unable to file incorrectly or you'll be doing it right, and we're all happy at the end of the day.

Tilly Killigrew

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What happens when left alone with my thoughts Nov 9, 2014 21:50:08 GMT -5

Post by Tilly Killigrew on Nov 9, 2014 21:50:08 GMT -5

Sorry, but that would imply the second will still be a thing. The seventh is formally absorbing the second. Paks will work under Argus. Who will demand all his subordinates wear pirate themed uniforms. And/or miniskirts.

Xiaobei Mei Nom nom nom~ 544 Posts Reiatsu300 Defense120 Strength120 Speed30 Spirit30 ApplicationLink	What happens when left alone with my thoughts Nov 9, 2014 21:51:27 GMT -5 Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by Xiaobei Mei on Nov 9, 2014 21:51:27 GMT -5 Whoever this Paks person is in SS, Xiaobei gives them permission to bite Argus for trying to make them wear a miniskirt. That's just rude, and I'm sure Abba would frown on it!
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Souta Suzuki 2,923 Posts	What happens when left alone with my thoughts Nov 9, 2014 21:52:04 GMT -5 Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by Souta Suzuki on Nov 9, 2014 21:52:04 GMT -5 The seventh has already been adsorbed by the Estate of the Sexta Espada. Panties are no longer allowed.

Kireon

Bye Felicia~

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What happens when left alone with my thoughts Nov 9, 2014 22:29:45 GMT -5

Post by Kireon on Nov 9, 2014 22:29:45 GMT -5

I think I should start a vote to see how many people are in favor of the Second taking over the Fourth.

Hey, if the Sixth can do it, so can't I~~

And you hooligans need some order imposed in there. I don't even want to imagine your budget meetings. How do you think we can afford this "satellite" technology with our wartime budget? It's time to institute strict filing systems. Don't worry, I'm an expert at this stuff, it'll be a painless and easy transition. All you have to do is file everything correctly or lose a hand. Soon enough you'll either be unable to file incorrectly or you'll be doing it right, and we're all happy at the end of the day.

Hey. Hisui knows paperwork, she learned that before she got all pissy about shittier gigai and proved she was being a lazy little shit. If the Others in 4th can't do it right...

Well, a hand is easily regrown/replaced.

Also, what budget?

Hisui and Ezekiel have been funding their own projects for a while, SS's stipend is for keeping morale up and for hush money.

(Don't look too closely at those meticulously cooked books. GoFundMe is totally a legit thing. She's just really good at proposal writing, really! No illegal money earning here!)

Dew

A broken balance

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What happens when left alone with my thoughts Nov 10, 2014 9:53:26 GMT -5

Post by Dew on Nov 10, 2014 9:53:26 GMT -5

What am I doing with my life?

I honestly need someone to tell me. I took a glance at the calendar today and realized I've been on this site for two years. Two years to the day since I wandered into this prison masquerading as a website. You guys could at least pad these Fucking manacles chaining me to this place.

Hope Transcendent 10,038 Posts RankTenko & Kirishi Mei	What happens when left alone with my thoughts Nov 11, 2014 1:14:37 GMT -5 Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by Hope on Nov 11, 2014 1:14:37 GMT -5 You weren't given pink fuzzy handcuffs like mine?

Kireon Bye Felicia~ 4,761 Posts	What happens when left alone with my thoughts Nov 11, 2014 3:54:38 GMT -5 Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by Kireon on Nov 11, 2014 3:54:38 GMT -5 So THAT'S why I had an order for cold iron cuffs two years ago!

lev Impostor. 786 Posts Reiatsu150 Defense35 Strength35 Speed20 Spirit60 ApplicationThis character had been compromised ThreadsAll fake.	What happens when left alone with my thoughts Nov 11, 2014 4:08:07 GMT -5 Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by lev on Nov 11, 2014 4:08:07 GMT -5 Well, even if it's a prison, you loved it. Otherwise, you'd be out by now. xD
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Dew

A broken balance

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What happens when left alone with my thoughts Nov 12, 2014 17:16:22 GMT -5

Post by Dew on Nov 12, 2014 17:16:22 GMT -5

I lied. Poems aren't just for the note worth events.

Footsteps
Resound in my head twenty score
The heartbeat of man
The drums of coming war

Can you not hear them?
Laid flush to your bed?
Yes there they are child
Right past your head

Their faces are grim
Their purpose resolute
Question not their goal's morals
There is naught to refute

Grass crushed underfoot
Beasts fled with great moans
His grip is too tight
On that blade as he hones

They march by day
Evening afternoon and night
You'll garner no sympathy
They see not your plight

Ever forward to conquer
The war will not stop
This army shall fight
For every last drop

Dew

A broken balance

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What happens when left alone with my thoughts Jan 20, 2015 0:18:20 GMT -5

Post by Dew on Jan 20, 2015 0:18:20 GMT -5

A monster dreamed he was a man

In truth, tis where his nightmare began

Trust not your mind, that fragile thing

To hold your hopes, let fears take wing

Stare long and deep to the abyss

Notice now just what is amiss

What do you see reflecting there?

Does it frighten, give you a scare?

You are no human, you are no man

You are the king with throne of sand

The world shall crumble, the people shall kneel

They know not truly how you feel

It is for your own, you dream of man

Let nightmare end, the dream began

Your sanity fallen, your life now lost

I hope your freedom was worth it's cost.

Bleach Gotei

What happens when left alone with my thoughts

Post by Dew on Nov 8, 2014 13:51:44 GMT -5

Post by Arthur on Nov 8, 2014 14:17:56 GMT -5

Post by Yamane Kokoro on Nov 8, 2014 14:19:08 GMT -5

Post by lev on Nov 9, 2014 1:03:39 GMT -5

Post by Garra Desalmados on Nov 9, 2014 4:37:27 GMT -5

Post by CLiX on Nov 9, 2014 5:53:56 GMT -5

Post by Takumi Nakashima on Nov 9, 2014 19:25:21 GMT -5

Post by Lissandra on Nov 9, 2014 19:43:55 GMT -5

Post by Kireon on Nov 9, 2014 21:38:34 GMT -5

Post by Fulfillment on Nov 9, 2014 21:46:10 GMT -5

Post by Tilly Killigrew on Nov 9, 2014 21:50:08 GMT -5

Post by Xiaobei Mei on Nov 9, 2014 21:51:27 GMT -5

Post by Souta Suzuki on Nov 9, 2014 21:52:04 GMT -5

Post by Kireon on Nov 9, 2014 22:29:45 GMT -5

Post by Dew on Nov 10, 2014 9:53:26 GMT -5

Post by Hope on Nov 11, 2014 1:14:37 GMT -5

Post by Kireon on Nov 11, 2014 3:54:38 GMT -5

Post by lev on Nov 11, 2014 4:08:07 GMT -5

Post by Dew on Nov 12, 2014 17:16:22 GMT -5

Post by Dew on Jan 20, 2015 0:18:20 GMT -5

Welcome!